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Tuesday, January 10, 2006

American Justice ?

Thank you all so very much for all the very nice messages on my birthday....
Before I tell you about
Munich, seen on sunday, I just found out an amazing fact relative to the american justice, or in this case the failure of the american justice...

[Claiming he no longer believes in punishment, a Vermont judge issued a 60-day sentence to a man who confessed to repeatedly raping a girl over a four-year period, beginning when she was 7 years old. Judge Edward Cashman disagreed with prosecutors who thought Mark Hulett, 34, of Williston, Vt., deserved eight to 20 years in prison, reported WCAX-TV in Burlington, Vt.
Cashman said he's more concerned now about rehabilitation.
"The one message I want to get through is that anger doesn't solve anything. It just corrodes your soul," Cashman told a packed Burlington courtroom made up mostly of people related to the victim.

Prior to the decision, Chittenden Deputy Prosecutor Nicole Andreson argued punishment "is a valid purpose.""The state recognizes that the court may not agree or subscribe to that method of sentencing but the state does," she said, according to the Burlington TV station. "The state thinks that it is a very important factor for the court to consider."
Cashman said he wants to make sure Hulett gets sex-offender treatment.

Under Department of Corrections classification, however, Hulett is considered a low-risk for re-offense, which means he doesn't qualify for in-prison treatment.
Cashman, therefore, issued a 60-day sentence and ordered Hulett to complete sex-treatment when he gets out or face a possible life sentence.

The judge said that when he began 25 years ago, he handed down tough sentences but now believes "it accomplishes nothing of value."
"It doesn't make anything better; it costs us a lot of money; we create a lot of expectation, and we feed on anger," Cashman explained to the people in the court, WCAX reported.

Members of the victim's family were outraged.]

Even if I can in a way understand the very humanist motivations of the judge, I think that our society is not yet ready to provide serious and adapted treatments to that kind of ugly criminals.... The judge wants to try something else ? Fine, but wouldn't it be smarter to do that experiment on another case ?
I think that anger has absolutely nothing to do with the sentencing of criminals (like this guy), and if anyone should be aware of that, it's an experienced judge like Judge Cashman....
I read somewhere "here in America, we don't have a justice system, we have a legal system".

9 Comments:

  • At Wed Jan 11, 06:48:00 AM , Blogger Lui said...

    Why in English? Feeling like getting some American to react? Nice post on a difficult subject, have you read Tokvil post on the differences between French and American legal system?

    Ok I am posting in English for now on... :)... Have a gread day.

     
  • At Wed Jan 11, 09:06:00 AM , Anonymous le dauphin said...

    http://www.mapsexoffenders.com/index.asp
    va voir ce site, tu pourras y voir tous les sex offenders de ton quartier
    scary!

     
  • At Wed Jan 11, 04:29:00 PM , Blogger Cloporte said...

    EUh... ouais... je sais pas, la ! Faut voir les resultats. J'veux dire, si ca fonctionne et que le mec ne recommence pas, alors qu'apres 10 ans de prison, des qu'il sort il y a une nouvelle victime ?
    Mais ca doit clairement etre dur pour la victime...

    Dauphin: dans les sex affenders, il y a le sexual harassment ? Parce que faut se mefier de ca: on a reproche a un gars de faire du sexual harassment a une collegue parce que la fille arrivait avant lui tous les matins et il lui avait demande d'ouvrir sa porte de bureau pour qu'il y fasse moins chaud quand il arrive... Bon, il n'a pas ete juge coupable, m'enfin...

     
  • At Wed Jan 11, 06:47:00 PM , Blogger Christophe said...

    C'est affligeant.
    Il lui manque sans doute quelques neurones au bon juge.
    Car si la justice ne punit plus, les victimes seront fortement tentées de se faire justice elles-mêmes.
    Il me semble d'ailleurs que c'était l'idée d'un certain monsieur Dracon ("draconien", ça vient de là) dans la Rome Antique: éviter les vendettas en punissant les criminels au nom de la société.
    Mais ça, notre bon juge américain n'en a sans doute jamais entendu parler!
    N'importe qui peut être juge dans ce pays, c'est peut-être ça le problème!

     
  • At Wed Jan 11, 08:36:00 PM , Blogger paris2texas said...

    Alex : yes, why not hearing some americans expressing their opinions about their own justice...

    Le Dauphin : ca m'enchante pas ton truc.... Ca me fait froid dans le dos... Est-ce une mise en garde ou une sorte de marquage au fer blanc ?

    Cloporte : Je suis d'accord avec toi, prison ou prise en charge medicale ? Considerons ce crime comme une maladie, ok, mais quelles sont les veritables structures d'accueil et de suivi et de cure pour ces hommes ?

    Fotsirk : oui affligeant, mais aussi fort de peurs.. Si meme les juges ne croient plus dans le systeme judiciaire et legal, ca vaudrait peut-etre la peine de se demander pourquoi...

     
  • At Wed Jan 11, 10:02:00 PM , Blogger Cloporte said...

    C'est comme pour toutes les revolutions, Dorothee. Il y a des sacrifies au debut.
    Parfois, il faut du sang, parfois il faut de la souffrance morale... le temps que le nouveau systeme rentre en place et que les structures se fassent.
    Maintenant, Fotsirk a aussi raison: si on ne punis pas, les victimes et familles voudront le faire. Et il y a aussi le probleme de la disuasion...
    Mais peut etre que pour certains crimes, ca vaut le coup d'etre tente...
    Comme je le disait en debut de mon 1er commentaire, je sais pas.

     
  • At Thu Jan 12, 09:49:00 AM , Anonymous Anonymous said...

    dans mon 78722, il y a 12 sex offenders
    yuck

     
  • At Thu Jan 12, 09:51:00 AM , Anonymous le dauphin said...

    dans mon 78722, il y a 12 sex offenders
    yuck

    c'est chiant le word verification pour poster
    a quoi ca sert?

     
  • At Thu Jan 12, 10:23:00 AM , Blogger paris2texas said...

    word verification supprime, c'etait pour eviter les spams, mais bon, j'en suis pas encore la...

     

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